Nuendo CPU test results...Dual Opteron and others...reopened

frankii · Junior Member Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 25

Ok, well, here are the results so far...

Keep in mind the following: AMD64 2.0 ghz running at 2.7ghz, stable and cool, high end OCZ Plat. Rev 2 DDR.
In addition, this system is connected to the INTERNET and NO TWEAKS (windows tweaks, background services, etc, have been done yet)

DMA BUFFER SIZE PERCENTAGE Latency NOTES:
64 75%-90 1ms Played fine, two pops toward end, delay in stopping after hitting STOP.
128 62%-68%/70% 2m Played fine
256 57%/62-63% 5ms " "
384 53%-61%-62% 8ms " "
512 51%-58% 11ms " "
768 50%/55% 17ms " "

Driver, M-AUdio, Card, Standard 9426 Audiophile (basic card in most SX users)

I should see better results with higher end cards, which I'll do later. The next on the agenda is to tweak the OS, turning off services, setting up virtual memory, background services vs program, etc.

For more of my benchmarks (non-audio) please look here:
http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=techmobocpu&Number=4864915&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=3

As you can see from the above to some extent, it beats the P4 3.8 w/ 1MB cache.
What's of interest is that it played rather well with 1ms and 64 DMA setting on an old MAUDIO 2496 card.
System:
Motherboard Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939, Bios 5, nforce3 Ultra Chipset.
GPU: New (yet older model Nvidia 5700 256 MB (only for 2d, no 2d needed, solid drivers)).
Memory: OCZ Platinum Rev 2, Dual Channel 2x512, timings, 2.5-4-4-10-1T (adding another gig in a week or so)
CPU Retail AMD 64 3200 running at 38C, 1.45 Voltage, at 2.7ghz. All within Spec.
HD: WD PATA 133
No Windows tweaks in the OS at this time.

So how do these look?

cheers,
frankii

I hope I did this test correctly. I think I may be able to get better numbers after setting up the OS perhaps, and the chip may clock much higher. Was reading last night, many are reaching 3.0 GHZ with this setup/DDR.

frankii · Junior Member Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 25

Five Towers:

CPU
28% 42% @ 384 DMA (8ms, which is what I would use probably for this particual sound card)

franYo · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 369 Location: Croatia

Thonex · Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:09 am Post subject:

Bump. This should be a sticky IMHO.

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Tiger Style · Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject:

it should, but i know a lot of people here are waiting for the tyan, and some...myself included...are still building. so...
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Skwirl · New Member Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 5

i was gonna try this test, but i dont have the monologue, or embracer plug ins

Tafkarn · Guest

Hi All,

I originally posted these results in another thread that was discussing the real world performance of the new Intel PCIe systems.

I thought it would be a good idea to post them here as well.

I'll let the figures speak for themselves :

3 systems tested , 2 PCI based, 1 PCIe. All systems had a 3.2 Prescott CPU's, also the audio card being used was a Layla 24 ;
Driver version 6.11 Beta.

Specs AGP Systems : Intel i865, 1 x 478 -AGP , 1 x 775-AGP , 1 GB XMS PC3200 , Hyperthreading On, ATI Radeon ,

The 2 AGP Systems results were basically identical despite the different Socket CPU's.

Five Towers: Version 3.0 :

Stopped : 30 % : Running : 50%

Thonex :

1024 - Stopped : 56% : Running 65-75 %

512 - Stopped : 58% : Running 68-76 %

256 - Stopped : 60% : Running 68-80 %

128 - Stopped : 66% : Running 78-90+ % Clicks and Pops !

Specs PCIe System : Intel i915, 775 PCIe , 1 GB XMS PC3200 , Hyperthreading On, ATI Radeon ,

Five Towers: Version 3.0 :

Stopped : 31 % : Running : 50%

Thonex :

1024 - Stopped : 58% : Running 66-78 %

512 - Stopped : 58% : Running 68-78 %

256 - Stopped : 62% : Running 70-82 %

128 - Stopped : 68% : Running 78 -90+ % Clicks and Pops !

Peace

T.

Thonex · Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject:

psvennevig · Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject:

I seem to not have noticed the URL for the Thonex test.
Do you care to drop it into this thread ???!#"

Pål
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Thonex · Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:

Tafkarn · Guest

Sure has got quieter in here..

I second the notion that this should be made a sticky , the other benchmark thread that has attained "sticky status" seems to have also ground to a halt .., ah well..

For those that are still interested, I have just completed some testing on my development system with one of the new 600 Series EMT64 enabled 3.2 Prescott 2 MB L2 chips. I've stuck to the 3.2 chips to have a direct comparison to my earlier testing.

Specs for the rest of the system: Intel i915, 775 PCIe , 1 GB XMS PC3200 , Hyperthreading On, ATI Radeon , Layla 24 - Driver version 6.11 Beta.

Five Towers: Version 3.0 :

Stopped : 30 % : Running : 49%

Thonex :

1024 - Stopped : 57% : Running 64-75 %

512 - Stopped : 57% : Running 66-75 %

256 - Stopped : 58% : Running 66-78 %

128 - Stopped : 62% : Running 72 -86 % Clicks and Pops !

Not a Huge improvement over the standard 500 Series 3.2 chip, but an improvement non the less.
I wasn't really expecting the extra L2 Cache to make a big splash on these benchmarks.

The Good news on 600 Series chips apart from the EM64T is that the thermals are way, way better.
The new J models of the 500 Series display the same thermal improvements also .. ;-)

I have personally obtained a good 8-10 degrees better at idle , and about 5-7 degrees better under load for the
J-500 Series. The 600 Series are only about 2-3 hotter than the J's under load. Not bad for all of those extra transistors.

Idle temps for both Series: 26-28 : Load: J-500 Series 43-45 degrees ; 600 Series 45 -48 degrees

Now to dig into some 64 Bit testing... ;-)

Peace

T.

jcschild · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:

well time for some AMD benchies.

Gigabyte K8NS Ultra-939
1 gig ram
40 gig HD
CDRW

AMD64 3500+

Nuendo 2.2
RME Multiface/PCI card

Thonex-
1024 buffer (23ms) 67% idle 82% Play

512 buffer (12ms) 68% idle 88% play

256 very slight pops..

5 Towers test
1024 (23ms) 37% idle 56% play

512 buffer (12ms) 38% idle 59% play

256 buffer (6ms) 41% idle 62% play

128 buffer (3ms) 49% idle 72% play

AMD64 3800+

Nuendo 2.2
RME Multiface/PCI card

Thonex-
1024 buffer (23ms) 59% idle 76% Play

512 buffer (12ms) 63% idle 79% play

256 ms (6ms) 69% Idle 88% Play

5 Towers test
1024 (23ms) 34% idle 50% play

512 buffer (12ms) 35% idle 54% play

256 buffer (6ms) 38% idle 58% play

128 buffer (3ms) 44% idle 68% play
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jcschild · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject:

Just for giggles i tried the Thonex test on an AMD laptop i have.
AMD 3400 (754 pin 1 meg)
60G 7200 Hd
1 Gig ram DDR 400
echo indigo
some what tweaked for audio.

even at 2048 it would play but drop audio somewhere about bar33
once it hit bar 58 total drop out, no lock up .

man this thread was hard to find
Sticky?
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Tiger Style · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:

i thought somebody'd made it a sticky? if not, it should be...
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jcschild · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:

ok a quick update

standard dual opteron 2.0, 4 x 512

with LYNX aes 16 x2

Thonex test

128 buffer 80% at bar 89 no pops clicks.

i find this very interesting.

seems to better results with Lynx.
anyone else have Lynx AES with a dually that can verify
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Thonex · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:14 am Post subject:

Tiger Style · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:06 am Post subject:

ten · Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject:

well finally got my system up and running...

thought i would do a quick test on the thonex and see whats what....

dual opteron 250s (2.4gig) e step .90

Tyan K8WE (s2895) motherboard

4gig ddr400/3200

rme fireface 800

3x scsi maxtor atlas II

4uads/2pocos blah etc....

Nuendo 3.02.623

winxp sp2

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thonex...

64 samples (2.4ms) 60% idle 70% play

96 samples (3.1ms) 52% idle 62% play

128 samples (3.9ms) 48% idle 58% play

256 samples (6.8ms) 42% idle 52% play

512 samples (12.6ms) 40% idle 50% play

768 samples (18.4ms) 40% idle 49% play

1024 samples (24.2ms) 40% idle 49% play

didnt seem to get any pops, clicks or crackles at any time...

Well thats about it. Its not completely setup yet, and i havent done any tweaking but will get onto it next week.

This system has so far run flawlessly and is more than impressive, it totally slays all my big projects from my 3.4 p4 system and it runs so solid and stable....i am seriously more than happy. All the hardwork and research seems to have finally paid off. I will do more testing etc and let you know how it all goes :)

ten
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Tiger Style · Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:02 pm Post subject:

sounds good, ten. that 2.4ms is the kicker...especially at only 70% play. tough machine, and well waited for...
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franYo · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 369 Location: Croatia

Hey ten,

Glad to see you’re finally up and running. Great results, pretty much in line with what users of S2885 reported. Happy to hear about the overall stability and the total absence of crackles. Seems like one hell of a system. Btw, which RAM did you end up with in the end, the original Corsair or did you get something else?

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ten · Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject:

Well I couldnt for the life of me get the Original Corsair stuff I had to work at all. No idea why as others with the same stuff had it working on the 2895, and my stuff works on a different opty board. Totally stumped there. Anyway, I got hold of 4 gigs of fairly standard Micron server based ddr400 for a good price to use until I test out some kingston hyperX ive been looking at, or some of the new OCZ titanium server range. Once ive got that in im planning on a clock attempt of 400mhz maybe 500/600 on air which will be very sweet if it works stable (others have had a 400mhz clock on C0 stepping opties on this board!!!!)

Gonna have a bash at winxp64 aswell sometime soon to see what thats like. Got drivers for all my hardware expect the uad and pocos but I still wouldnt mind a play to see whats in store :)

Will have some build pics up over the next week or so to show how it all went together etc :)

And yes I still have a smile from my left ear to the right one :)

ten
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jcschild · Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject:

bump
because i hate having to look for it
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Tiger Style · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:00 pm Post subject:

nice work, ten. what do the temps. look like with the new processors? did you ever go for the 252's?
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ten · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject:

Ive got 252s in now and the temps with XP90cs and 92mm silentcats are hitting 38 under full load. Which is pretty bloody good. Ive managed to clock the 252s to 2.93ghz stable (sandra mem bandwidth over 11000 with numa enabled.) Im going to relax the ram timings and chipset coolers to the nf4pros (the passive cooling they come with is a bit wank.) I may also be getting hold of 2 dualcore opteron 275s. Even though I know they wont work good yet, I can blag a pair for a cheap price so I might keep them aside until the day comes :)

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